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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.26 03:00:00 -
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I find the 'hardcore griefer wannabe" comments amusing.
CCP is renowned for leaving buggy exploitable code in the game (lofty scam is a good example), ignoring complaints and advice, until that buggy exploitable code affects one of their [brown nuggets of poorly developed content aimed at driving up subscriptions in the short term updates (can't really call them expansions now can we)].
The 'hardcore griefer wannabe' can whine and moan all they like regarding the removal of the RR aggression loophole but now that CCP's BNoPDC has been affected the writing is on the wall and its sure to be removed. Wannabe hardcore griefer tears are sweet to read so thank you CCP, at least something decent came out of your update.
At the end of the day, this game is for Carebears, Griefers, PvP'rs, 0.0 ****s, Low Sec Pirates and everyone else who plays the game, not specifically for just one playstyle (although apparently some CCP developers think otherwise).
PUGS should be viable since it seems incursions were at least partially developed around the idea and a couple of idiots with no imagination should not be significantly influencing the outcomes. There is still room for causing grief and killing other players, perhaps not as easy as exploiting the GCC bug, so dry those greiffy tears, and try using your brains instead of questionable mechanics.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.26 12:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
I thought EVE was a "sandbox game where you can do whatever you want". But the "whatever you want"-bit seem to only consist of killing other ships because otherwise you're a noob or a carebear.
It's cliche and very very old by now. Try to use some other "insults" because I think most people you so eloquently like to call "carebear" frankly don't give a monkey.
Result of kids getting picked on at school. Low self esteem. Que EvE Online.
Now they can be a pirate / griefer / hater who pick on the new nerds (carebears) and pretend to be 90% psychotic asshats like their old school foes.
Well at least for a few hours, then they log off, get a skinny latte, go to the office and get their family sedan scratched by a scary hillbilly (probably one of the guys who used to beat them up at school).
If theres any justice their insurance company will write them a letter with 'Herp Derp, Cry Moar Noob'.
Sadly won't happen.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.26 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 26/01/2011 15:28:08
Theres a very simple solution:
No amount of repping is going to prevent concord from killing you. They have too much DPS. Therefore you don't need to give flag a remote repper as a criminal.
If there is a case where a person gets enough of a remote rep chain going that they could tank concord then that would be an exploit as everyone already knows thats a no-no, and warnings and bans would be forthcoming.
Therefore GCC on remote reppers is a pointless mechanic in regards to concord and simply should be removed.
End of story.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.26 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 26/01/2011 15:49:05
Originally by: Posta Wifda Mosta
Edited by: Posta Wifda Mosta on 26/01/2011 15:44:29
Edited by: Posta Wifda Mosta on 26/01/2011 15:44:03
Here's a thought, criminals "think" they are cool, how about make anyone with a negative security status red to anyone with a positive security status. Scrap concord and we police ourself. Since the paper hat pirates flee from lowsec to highsec like the carebears they truly are in order to avoid combatn with our alliance, we would like to be able to hunt them down in highsec also. I need more frozen ***** pirate corpse's in my hangar.
In effect they have chosen to exclude themselves from the general EvE community, so let us have at them without the chains that bind us.
People would love that. Every monkey and his monkey friend would have pirate alts, with secret cloaked or next door system pirate fleets waiting for some idjit to aggress them.
It would be fun, complete anarchy and carebear hell. Despite what the morons who 'hate' carebears think we need carebears, for high sec wars, to make our ships and to do all the useful things carebears do.
Such a change would be a majorly bad thing for EvE.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.26 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 26/01/2011 16:17:01
Originally by: Luminos
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 26/01/2011 15:28:08
Theres a very simple solution:
No amount of repping is going to prevent concord from killing you. They have too much DPS. Therefore you don't need to give flag a remote repper as a criminal.
If there is a case where a person gets enough of a remote rep chain going that they could tank concord then that would be an exploit as everyone already knows thats a no-no, and warnings and bans would be forthcoming.
Therefore GCC on remote reppers is a pointless mechanic in regards to concord and simply should be removed.
End of story.
So close, yet so far away.
As I believe Tippia has been trying to get across, the issue with GCC isn't the fact it propogates through RR chains, but the fact it does so without warning.
Ideally, when Assclown A decides to GCC herself, RR-bot B should get the ability to decide if they want to join in the CONCORDokken. Presumably this would include having all logi activities on ship A stopping as soon as the GCC starts, and then everybody who wants to continue repping/boosting/whatever has to restart, which gives them their own "Are you sure?" chance.
Mechanically, I'm not sure CCP has something in place to stop remote mods other than session change or jump to warp, both of which also drop target (though I'm honestly not sure if the target drop is because of the warp/session effect itself, or just due to getting out of range). And I'm relatively sure we don't want a future in which GCC acts as a one-time ECM Burst. 
What your not getting though is there is no reason to have a criminal flag on a RR when concord is guaranteed to kill the aggressor and the RR has no useful affect on the person initiating the GCC.
If RR was possible to use to stop the criminal from dying it would be a different story but its not. The flagging on the RR is causing problems and removing it outright is preferable to adding a more convoluted solution.
The only thing a projected effect should do in regards to assisting in a GCC situation is to flag the person helping as a PvP target to the person aggressed.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 27/01/2011 04:15:47
Like I already said. Convoluted ideas / solutions are not necessary.
Simply remove concordeken for RR that causes criminal concordeken. Its a waste of time to punish someone so severely for performing an action that has zero impact on the criminal - concord interaction.
The lag it causes is tremendous and just that in itself is reason to make this change.
The mechanic allowing RR in low sec to instantly jump to high sec and escape is a symptom of another unrelated issue - that RR causes no aggression timer. That should be addressed as its own unrelated issue.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2011.01.27 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: HeliosGal
make the high sec incursions easier removing the rr need = solution
makin em farmable by bots and duel boxers. Bad idea. EvE is already too easy.
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